Oct 13, 2012 4:00am EDT
percent said ryan was the victor. a cbs poll showing 50 percent say biden one. by a larger margin. joining me now to discuss the debate, its impact, if any, former adviser, fox is political analyst and veteran campaign strategist and former reagan political director, and it is great to have you both here. but, your impression of that debate. lofty, elevated, eliminating. >> and of the above. [laughter] at the end of the day the president was missing in action. look like he was on valium. joe biden should have been on valium last night. >> thorazine. >> something. >> he obviously did what democrats needed, he went out and basically beat the daylights out of both the candidate and the candid he represented. the candid, i think his performance diminished any chance that he can tap of people taking more seriously. lou: i want to interject, talking with two leading psychologists about what they thought about what was transpiring and in the behavior, the conduct of both candid it's honesty chichen night. with other will be interesting analysis. vice-president biden, did he do what he had to do?